{"id":364,"date":"2008-05-02T12:40:04","date_gmt":"2008-05-02T17:40:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.fabricegrinda.com\/?p=364"},"modified":"2023-08-10T05:59:09","modified_gmt":"2023-08-10T05:59:09","slug":"big-bird-brain","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/grinda.org\/th\/big-bird-brain\/","title":{"rendered":"Big bird brain :)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I read a lot of fascinating articles on Alex last September and never got around to writing about it. In case you have not read it yet, read the article below reposted from the New York Times:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2007\/09\/16\/weekinreview\/16john.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin&amp;ref=weekinreview&amp;pagewanted=print\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Alex Wanted a Cracker, but Did He Want One?<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Alex Wanted a Cracker, but Did He Want One?<\/strong><br \/>\nBy GEORGE JOHNSON<\/p>\n<p>IN \u201cOryx and Crake,\u201d Margaret Atwood\u2019s novel about humanity\u2019s final days on earth, a boy named Jimmy becomes obsessed with Alex, an African gray parrot with extraordinary cognitive and linguistic skills. Hiding out in the library, Jimmy watches historical TV documentaries in which the bird deftly distinguishes between blue triangles and yellow squares and invents a perfect new word for almond: cork-nut.<\/p>\n<p>But what Jimmy finds most endearing is Alex\u2019s bad attitude. As bored with the experiments as Jimmy is with school, the parrot would abruptly squawk, \u201cI\u2019m going away now,\u201d then refuse to cooperate further.<\/p>\n<p>Except for the part about Jimmy and the imminent apocalypse (still, fingers crossed, a few decades away), all of the above is true. Until he was found dead 10 days ago in his cage at a Brandeis University psych lab, Alex was the subject of 30 years of experiments challenging the most basic assumptions about animal intelligence.<\/p>\n<p>He is survived by his trainer, Irene Pepperberg, a prominent comparative psychologist, and a scientific community divided over whether creatures other than human are more than automatons, enjoying some kind of inner life.<\/p>\n<p>Skeptics have long dismissed Dr. Pepperberg\u2019s successes with Alex as a subtle form of conditioning \u2014 no deeper philosophically than teaching a pigeon to peck at a moving spot by bribing it with grain. But the radical behaviorists once said the same thing about people: that what we take for thinking, hoping, even theorizing, is all just stimulus and response.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"853\" height=\"480\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/XcLLk-r1aSs\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Was Alex only parroting when he showed off for Alan Alda on \u201cScientific American Frontiers\u201d (one of the PBS productions the fictional Jimmy might have seen)?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhat color smaller?\u201d Dr. Pepperberg asked the parrot as she held up two keys. \u201cGreen,\u201d he responded. Alex also seemed to understand concepts like \u201cbigger,\u201d \u201cdifferent\u201d and \u201csame.\u201d Presented with a tray of colored cutouts \u2014 the numerals 1 to 6 \u2014 he could tell you which one was gray: \u201cFour.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Many linguists argue that only human brains have the ability to nest ideas within ideas to form the infinitely recursive architecture of thought: When you\u2019re done eating breakfast would you look in the box at the back of the table for the yellow rubber glove with the middle finger turned inside out?<\/p>\n<p>Alex could pull together a few simple concepts. Show him a group of objects and he could tell you, \u201cWhat color is wood and four-corner?\u201d or, \u201cWhat shape is paper and purple?\u201d Dr. Pepperberg was hoping to train Alex to spin his own recursions, informing her that the nut was \u201cin the blue cup that\u2019s on the tray\u201d or \u201cin the yellow box on the chair.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI wish we had gotten further,\u201d Dr. Pepperberg wrote in an e-mail message. \u201cWe were just beginning to get him to designate things like \u2018in\u2019 and \u2018on.\u2019 \u201d<\/p>\n<p>The deepest recursion is consciousness \u2014 knowing that you know and that you know that you know. In his recent book, \u201cI Am a Strange Loop,\u201d Douglas Hofstadter proposed that the richness of a creature\u2019s mental representations be used to take the measure of its soul.<\/p>\n<p>The unit Dr. Hofstadter whimsically proposed is the \u201chuneker,\u201d named for James Huneker, a music critic who wrote that Chopin\u2019s 11th \u00c9tude, in A minor, (Op. 25) was so majestic that \u201csmall-souled men, no matter how agile their fingers, should not attempt it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>If your average person\u2019s soulfulness weighs in at 100 hunekers with a hamster down near 10, Alex hovered somewhere above the halfway mark. But there were moments when he seemed to reach for the top.<\/p>\n<p>In an talk on Edge.org, Dr. Pepperberg told of an effort to teach the parrot about phonemes using colored tokens marked with letter combinations like sh and ch.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhat sound is green?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSsshh,\u201d Alex answered correctly, and then demanded a nut. Instead he got another question.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhat sound is orange?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cCh.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cGood bird!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWant a nut!\u201d Alex demanded. The interview was over. \u201cWant a nut!\u201d he repeated. \u201cNnn &#8230; uh &#8230; tuh.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Pepperberg was flabbergasted. \u201cNot only could you imagine him thinking, \u2018Hey, stupid, do I have to spell it for you?\u2019 \u201d she said. \u201cThis was in a sense his way of saying to us, \u2018I know where you\u2019re headed! Let\u2019s get on with it.\u2019 \u201d<\/p>\n<p>She is quick to concede the impossibility of proving that the bird was actually verbalizing its internal deliberations. Only Alex knew for sure.<\/p>\n<p>Next to infinity, one of the hardest concepts to grasp is zero. Toward the end of his life Alex may have been coming close.<\/p>\n<p>In a carnival shell game, an experimenter would put a nut under one of three cups and then shuffle them around. Alex would pick up the cup where the prize was supposed to be. If it wasn\u2019t there he\u2019d go a little berserk \u2014 a small step, maybe, toward understanding nothingness.<\/p>\n<p>A bigger leap came in an experiment about numbers, in which the parrot was shown groups of two, three and six objects. The objects within each set were colored identically, and Alex was asked, \u201cWhat color three?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cFive,\u201d he replied perversely (he was having a bad attitude day), repeating the answer until the experimenter finally asked, \u201cO.K., Alex, tell me, \u2018What color five?\u2019 \u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNone,\u201d the parrot said.<\/p>\n<p>Bingo. There was no group of five on the tray. It was another of those high huneker moments. Alex had learned the word \u201cnone\u201d years before in a different context. Now he seemed to be using it more abstractly.<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Pepperberg reported the result with appropriate understatement: \u201cThat zero was represented in some way by a parrot, with a walnut-sized brain whose ancestral evolutionary history with humans likely dates from the dinosaurs, is striking.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In a well-known essay, \u201cWhat Is it Like to Be a Bat?\u201d the philosopher Thomas Nagel speculated about the elusiveness of subjectivity. What was it like to be Alex that last night in his cage? We\u2019ll never know whether there really was a mind in there \u2014 slogging its way from the absence of a cork-nut to the absence of Alex, grasping at the zeroness of death.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I read a lot of fascinating articles on Alex last September and never got around to writing about it. In case you have not read it yet, read the article &hellip; <a href=\"\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":20747,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-364","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-interesting-articles"],"acf":[],"contentUpdated":"Big bird brain :). Categories - Interesting Articles. Date-Posted - 2008-05-02T12:40:04 . I read a lot of fascinating articles on Alex last September and never got around to writing about it. In case you have not read it yet, read the article below reposted from the New York Times:\n Alex Wanted a Cracker, but Did He Want One?\n Alex Wanted a Cracker, but Did He Want One?\n By GEORGE JOHNSON\n IN \u201cOryx and Crake,\u201d Margaret Atwood\u2019s novel about humanity\u2019s final days on earth, a boy named Jimmy becomes obsessed with Alex, an African gray parrot with extraordinary cognitive and linguistic skills. Hiding out in the library, Jimmy watches historical TV documentaries in which the bird deftly distinguishes between blue triangles and yellow squares and invents a perfect new word for almond: cork-nut.\n But what Jimmy finds most endearing is Alex\u2019s bad attitude. As bored with the experiments as Jimmy is with school, the parrot would abruptly squawk, \u201cI\u2019m going away now,\u201d then refuse to cooperate further.\n Except for the part about Jimmy and the imminent apocalypse (still, fingers crossed, a few decades away), all of the above is true. Until he was found dead 10 days ago in his cage at a Brandeis University psych lab, Alex was the subject of 30 years of experiments challenging the most basic assumptions about animal intelligence.\n He is survived by his trainer, Irene Pepperberg, a prominent comparative psychologist, and a scientific community divided over whether creatures other than human are more than automatons, enjoying some kind of inner life.\n Skeptics have long dismissed Dr. Pepperberg\u2019s successes with Alex as a subtle form of conditioning \u2014 no deeper philosophically than teaching a pigeon to peck at a moving spot by bribing it with grain. But the radical behaviorists once said the same thing about people: that what we take for thinking, hoping, even theorizing, is all just stimulus and response.\n Was Alex only parroting when he showed off for Alan Alda on \u201cScientific American Frontiers\u201d (one of the PBS productions the fictional Jimmy might have seen)?\n \u201cWhat color smaller?\u201d Dr. Pepperberg asked the parrot as she held up two keys. \u201cGreen,\u201d he responded. Alex also seemed to understand concepts like \u201cbigger,\u201d \u201cdifferent\u201d and \u201csame.\u201d Presented with a tray of colored cutouts \u2014 the numerals 1 to 6 \u2014 he could tell you which one was gray: \u201cFour.\u201d\n Many linguists argue that only human brains have the ability to nest ideas within ideas to form the infinitely recursive architecture of thought: When you\u2019re done eating breakfast would you look in the box at the back of the table for the yellow rubber glove with the middle finger turned inside out?\n Alex could pull together a few simple concepts. Show him a group of objects and he could tell you, \u201cWhat color is wood and four-corner?\u201d or, \u201cWhat shape is paper and purple?\u201d Dr. Pepperberg was hoping to train Alex to spin his own recursions, informing her that the nut was \u201cin the blue cup that\u2019s on the tray\u201d or \u201cin the yellow box on the chair.\u201d\n \u201cI wish we had gotten further,\u201d Dr. Pepperberg wrote in an e-mail message. \u201cWe were just beginning to get him to designate things like \u2018in\u2019 and \u2018on.\u2019 \u201d\n The deepest recursion is consciousness \u2014 knowing that you know and that you know that you know. In his recent book, \u201cI Am a Strange Loop,\u201d Douglas Hofstadter proposed that the richness of a creature\u2019s mental representations be used to take the measure of its soul.\n The unit Dr. Hofstadter whimsically proposed is the \u201chuneker,\u201d named for James Huneker, a music critic who wrote that Chopin\u2019s 11th \u00c9tude, in A minor, (Op. 25) was so majestic that \u201csmall-souled men, no matter how agile their fingers, should not attempt it.\u201d\n If your average person\u2019s soulfulness weighs in at 100 hunekers with a hamster down near 10, Alex hovered somewhere above the halfway mark. But there were moments when he seemed to reach for the top.\n In an talk on Edge.org, Dr. Pepperberg told of an effort to teach the parrot about phonemes using colored tokens marked with letter combinations like sh and ch.\n \u201cWhat sound is green?\u201d\n \u201cSsshh,\u201d Alex answered correctly, and then demanded a nut. Instead he got another question.\n \u201cWhat sound is orange?\u201d\n \u201cCh.\u201d\n \u201cGood bird!\u201d\n \u201cWant a nut!\u201d Alex demanded. The interview was over. \u201cWant a nut!\u201d he repeated. \u201cNnn &#8230; uh &#8230; tuh.\u201d\n Dr. Pepperberg was flabbergasted. \u201cNot only could you imagine him thinking, \u2018Hey, stupid, do I have to spell it for you?\u2019 \u201d she said. \u201cThis was in a sense his way of saying to us, \u2018I know where you\u2019re headed! Let\u2019s get on with it.\u2019 \u201d\n She is quick to concede the impossibility of proving that the bird was actually verbalizing its internal deliberations. Only Alex knew for sure.\n Next to infinity, one of the hardest concepts to grasp is zero. Toward the end of his life Alex may have been coming close.\n In a carnival shell game, an experimenter would put a nut under one of three cups and then shuffle them around. Alex would pick up the cup where the prize was supposed to be. If it wasn\u2019t there he\u2019d go a little berserk \u2014 a small step, maybe, toward understanding nothingness.\n A bigger leap came in an experiment about numbers, in which the parrot was shown groups of two, three and six objects. The objects within each set were colored identically, and Alex was asked, \u201cWhat color three?\u201d\n \u201cFive,\u201d he replied perversely (he was having a bad attitude day), repeating the answer until the experimenter finally asked, \u201cO.K., Alex, tell me, \u2018What color five?\u2019 \u201d\n \u201cNone,\u201d the parrot said.\n Bingo. There was no group of five on the tray. It was another of those high huneker moments. Alex had learned the word \u201cnone\u201d years before in a different context. Now he seemed to be using it more abstractly.\n Dr. Pepperberg reported the result with appropriate understatement: \u201cThat zero was represented in some way by a parrot, with a walnut-sized brain whose ancestral evolutionary history with humans likely dates from the dinosaurs, is striking.\u201d\n In a well-known essay, \u201cWhat Is it Like to Be a Bat?\u201d the philosopher Thomas Nagel speculated about the elusiveness of subjectivity. What was it like to be Alex that last night in his cage? We\u2019ll never know whether there really was a mind in there \u2014 slogging its way from the absence of a cork-nut to the absence of Alex, grasping at the zeroness of death.\n ","Category":["Interesting Articles"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/grinda.org\/th\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/364","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/grinda.org\/th\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/grinda.org\/th\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/grinda.org\/th\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/grinda.org\/th\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=364"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/grinda.org\/th\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/364\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":17293,"href":"https:\/\/grinda.org\/th\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/364\/revisions\/17293"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/grinda.org\/th\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/20747"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/grinda.org\/th\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=364"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/grinda.org\/th\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=364"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/grinda.org\/th\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=364"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}